London Grammar: “I always end up being the only female in the room”

It’s virtually inconceivable for Hannah Reid to pinpoint a single second of music business misogyny that precipitated her to snap.

“We had been sound checking for a gig, and I believed that the bass was too loud,” the London Grammar frontwoman remembers of 1 significantly egregious second. At this specific present, her two male bandmates, instrumentalists Dot Main and Dan Rothman, had been taken significantly once they requested the engineer for modifications. When Hannah voiced her concern in regards to the sound ranges, although, she obtained an undesirable lecture on how bass truly works.

“Afterwards,” she says with an eye fixed roll over Zoom from her dwelling in London, “everybody complained that the bass was too loud, and I used to be like, ‘Yeah – I bloody stated it!”

This interplay with a huffing, sexist sound engineer was hardly a one-off prevalence for the singer throughout numerous excursions. Over the course of NME’s 90-minute interview, she recounts innumerable day by day sexist microaggressions she’s confronted within the music business – experiences that served because the catalyst for the band’s upcoming third album, ‘Californian Soil’.

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London Grammar first shaped in 2009 after assembly at Nottingham College; a couple of years later, they emerged as one of many UK’s buzziest rising bands after the discharge of 2012’s ‘Metallic & Mud’ EP, and (now Double Platinum) debut album ‘If You Wait’. Each had been full of the band’s intoxicating mix of art-pop – a fusion of trip-hop manufacturing, lush soundscapes and Hannah’s emotive, contralto voice. It was a sound that might earn them a slew of awards nominations (together with profitable an Ivor Novello for the emotive, ambient ‘Robust’), Glastonbury slots and gigs all around the world.

The band – typically described as “well mannered” and “guarded” in interviews – allowed their music to do the speaking, a development that continued on their second album, 2017’s triumphant ‘Fact Is A Lovely Factor’, which soared to Quantity One right here within the UK.

Behind the scenes, although, issues weren’t fairly so peachy. The checklist of sexist experiences Reid attracts on for ‘Californian Soil’ is neverending. There was the mix-up earlier than a gig when Hannah needed to argue with a safety guard to let her backstage to her personal present, as they didn’t consider she was within the band. She later discovered the employees member in query had informed their tour supervisor that she was “a formidable younger girl”.

“I used to be similar to, ‘For fucks sake’. If I used to be fucking Chris Martin, he wouldn’t be referred to as a formidable younger man,” she displays. “To me that’s simply code for ‘bitch’.”

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There have been photoshoots the place Hannah was pushed to put on sure outfits. She recounts one tv look when she turned as much as uncover a rail of pre-approved ‘seems’: “One was like a glittery, very brief gold costume, one other one was pink satin little shorts with like a bit of satin crop prime. I do love style and I’ll costume up each from time to time if I wish to, however Dan and Dot had been positively not having to place up with this. I’ll simply put on what the fuck I wish to put on, thanks very a lot.”

There have been the business males Hannah felt like she couldn’t present emotion round, lest she be thought of ‘irrational’; the strangers who commented on what she wore on-line; the rooms she’d stroll into together with her male bandmates and really feel like she needed to always show herself. Then there was the time that, after showing on Radio 1 again in 2013, a tweet was posted on the station’s Twitter account that learn: “All of us assume that the lady from @londongrammar is match. Tell us in the event you agree.”

NME Cover 2021 London GrammarHannah Reid of London Grammar. Credit score: Zoe McConnell for NME. White jacket and trousers: Amlul, Vest: Weekday, Jewelry: Alighieri

Over the course of a decade in London Grammar, the double requirements always on present proved understandably exhausting for the vocalist. “If I’m strong-minded, I’m being actually ‘tough’ or I’m being a ‘bitch’,” she says, “whereas for the boys they’ve simply bought ‘integrity’ over what they do. It may be a extremely, actually tiny factor – however you probably have it day by day, and it turns into a thousand moments, it will probably truly change who you’re… You possibly can’t let it go when it’s occurring on a regular basis.”

She provides: “I felt like I began to mould myself round sure males. I simply felt like I had a unique activity to the boys. They might stroll right into a room and simply be taken significantly as musicians immediately.”

When ending the tour for the band’s second document on the finish of 2017, one thing needed to give. Whereas Hannah is adamant that quitting London Grammar wasn’t on the playing cards, there have been moments when she thought of if it was all value it.

“I did assume that I wasn’t reduce out for the business,” she displays right this moment. “And I did say to Dan and Dot, ‘I don’t need this to finish, however one thing does have to alter as a result of I simply can’t maintain doing my greatest work or going out on the highway if I’m going to return again and really feel this manner.’”

“I wasn’t making myself weak with our second album; I wasn’t taking dangers” – Hannah Reid

However as a substitute of quitting, Hannah pushed ahead with work on album three, stepping up right into a figurehead position within the band, taking over accountability for a lot of the document’s visible aesthetic and bringing extra of herself to the songwriting. There was no large dialog about this shift in dynamic between the trio, however work on ‘Californian Soil’ got here alongside a pure gear change.

Launched in 2017, ‘Fact Is A Lovely Factor’ noticed the band embrace the dreamier facet of their sound, with a concentrate on melancholy melodies and symphonic moments. But there have been moments the place Hannah felt like she was hiding behind these lugubrious instrumentals. It’s a stark comparability to ‘Californian Soil’, the place Hannah’s deeply private lyrics are the document’s beating coronary heart. “I like our second document, I actually do – there are elements of it which are actually lovely,” Hannah says, “[but] I wasn’t making myself very weak and I didn’t really feel like I used to be taking any dangers,” she explains.

On album three, Hannah’s mindset modified: “I felt like, ‘You already know what, that actually didn’t work for me and I type of don’t have anything else to lose now’. I wish to simply be fully weak, say every thing that I wish to say and folks will prefer it or they gained’t.”

NME Cover 2021 London GrammarDot Main of London Grammar. Credit score: Zoe McConnell for NME. Trousers: Levis, Jacket: Ami, High: Rag and Bone, Sneakers Dot’s personal

On the core of the change was making certain her experiences up to now aren’t replicated sooner or later. “I did say to [Dot and Dan], if I’m the chief, different folks should respect me and respect us.”

Her bandmates had been joyful to let her take the reins. “Lyrically, [‘Californian Soil’] could be very a lot about Hannah’s expertise as a girl, and we needed that message to return by as loud as attainable,” Dot tells NME on a separate Zoom name alongside Dan a couple of days later.

This shift in dynamic is strikingly evident on album three, a document by which Hannah refuses to cover, her songwriting and tales bursting out entrance and centre. “I used to be hiding my vulnerability away and hiding the message of songs away,” she says of the band’s previous materials. This time round, the elevated concentrate on the meanings behind the songs makes for the band’s most sincere and private work but.

Take the trip-hop-infused album centrepiece ‘I Want The Evening’, on which Hannah dissects the emotional impact the load of the music business’s misogyny had on her: “There’s a lyric, ‘Take all of your limbs and wrap them spherical your neck / So all of them snigger at your predicament’, which is about that feeling of these thousand moments that I’ve skilled over the course of my profession, and the way then I internalised it and tied myself up in knots as a result of I didn’t really feel like I may all the time be my true self within the business I used to be in.”

“‘Californian Soil’” could be very a lot about Hannah’s expertise as a girl” – Dot Main

The stressed tune later relaxes right into a sonorous refrain that sees her sing: “I would like the evening / And I would like this drink / Will you sit with me / And produce all your pals / Chase the morning mild till all of this ends,” a cathartic second that seems like a visceral launch of all of the business bullshit she’s needed to put up with.

Elsewhere, the cinematic ‘Lord It’s A Feeling’ sees the trio mesh wealthy strings with brooding synths, as Hannah’s distinctive powerhouse vocals and lyrics depict the heartbreak she felt at seeing buddies caught in suffocating poisonous relationships. “I noticed it too many occasions and do get very affected,” she says. “I feel I’m a little bit of an empath and I clearly have had experiences like that myself as properly.”

Hannah’s newfound freedom in writing additionally bursts out within the album’s instrumentation: ‘Californian Soil’ is by far the band’s most upbeat, jubilant document but. The trio’s hovering art-pop is that this time imbued with a blast of Balearic solar and comprises floor-filling beats that might really feel at dwelling after-hours at Glastonbury. Euphoric lead single ‘Child It’s You’, a music about “being at a pageant and being in love,” as she places it, is a slice of pure pleasure, full of vibrant hooks and glossy manufacturing from digital producer George FitzGerald.

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The method of making ‘Californian Soil’ started in 2017, simply after the band had completed touring album two. Decamping to Dan’s ‘Narnia’ studio (a hidden room in his outdated home in north London, accessed by pulling again a wardrobe to disclose a ladder up into the attic), the band labored on demos, later fleshing them out at an even bigger studio.

“This was the primary time that we basically did the method collectively ourselves,” Dot explains of the document’s manufacturing on earlier releases they labored with govt producer figures reminiscent of Paul Epworth and Tim Bran, however this time round they largely took on the knob-twiddling accountability themselves, one thing Dot says was each daunting and magical.

Outdoors enter was nonetheless at hand at factors, although. Alongside the aforementioned FitzGerald, hitmaker Steve Mac (who’s labored with Ed Sheeran and Little Combine) and indie favorite Charlie Andrew (greatest identified for his work with alt-J) additionally assisted with manufacturing on a handful of songs. The checklist of credit stand out, although – for a document with such a feminist angle, all of the visitor producers are male.

“That was a giant battle inside me,” Hannah admits. “It’s altering now however there aren’t many feminine producers on the market. That’s one thing that I actually hope can change and it’s one thing that I do wish to take into consideration for a fourth album.

She calls the dearth of feminine producers within the business “the strangest a part of the music enterprise”, including: It’s like that’s a person’s world, and I’ve struggled with that massively. I all the time find yourself being the one feminine within the room.”

NME Cover 2021 London GrammarCredit score: Zoe McConnell for NME. Go well with: Paul Smith, Boots: Dorateymur, Jewelry: Alighieri

‘Californian Soil’ is an album that’s begging to be loved in sweaty golf equipment and because the solar units over a pageant stage. “It’s essentially the most upbeat London Grammar have ever been,” says Hannah. Having sat on the completed album for 12 months, the band naturally intend to tour as soon as it’s COVID-safe, however after the brutal nature of the band’s early excursions, it’ll need to be finished proper.

The band’s promotional tour round ‘If You Wait’ was relentless, Hannah remembers: “The longest time period we had at dwelling in two years was 9 days.” Because of the extreme, fixed touring, the singer developed fibromyalgia, a long-term situation that causes persistent ache all around the physique; fellow victims embrace Girl Gaga and Sinead O’Connor, suggesting it’s a constant drawback within the music business.

“It got here on fairly sturdy,” she explains. “Then, in between the primary and second albums, I actually labored on my well being and bought my well being again, however then it relapsed. After we began making the third album, I used to be additionally attempting to actually resolve the place it was coming from.

“This album is essentially the most upbeat London Grammar have ever been” – Hannah Reid

“Having it did affect on the method [of ‘Californian Soil’]. At first I had no vitality, I may solely work for a couple of hours, sat down with a hand-held microphone in Dan’s studio. However slowly I regained energy. I wish to assume that the help I had from the boys and the way understanding they had been helped me truly get higher.

On these early excursions, the band had been always massively overworked, their schedule filling up with whole excursions booked in that the band themselves hadn’t accepted. “You’re too younger to grasp that really, you have to be in management,” Hannah displays now.

Dan, a brand new father, says the infinite sleepless nights he’s at the moment experiencing takes him again to the band’s endless grind. “My child is 4 weeks outdated,” he says. “The one factor I can evaluate the tiredness to is how I felt on that first album cycle – that’s actually my comparability.”

NME Cover 2021 London GrammarDan Rothman of London Grammar. Credit score: Zoe McConnell for NME. Shirt: Paul Smith, Trousers: Pimples, Sneakers: Converse

Hannah remembers getting back from excursions “fully depleted,” with family and friends more and more expressing fear about her wellbeing each time she got here dwelling. “It’s type of tough to speak about to be sincere. It makes me really feel extremely responsible, as a result of,” she says earlier than pausing. “I don’t know… particularly in a time proper now when persons are actually struggling, to ever discuss [touring] being tough is like… it was essentially the most wonderful factor that ever may have occurred to the band.”

She was significantly moved by 2017’s Avicii: True Tales, a devastating documentary in regards to the Swedish DJ, which confirmed the strain and bodily exhaustion he was sufferer to behind the scenes. Avicii later died by suicide in April 2018.

“At any time when I watch documentaries like that I cry uncontrollably – they simply have such a huge impact on me,” she says, “however the Avicii one I discovered the closest to dwelling.” She relatedly carefully to the late DJ’s character sort and the way, as was the case together with her, “one thing bodily began to go improper together with his physique.” She provides: “In that documentary, you’ll be able to see that he’s being very subtly coerced by the folks round him on a regular basis to maintain going. You do see it occur repeatedly and once more. Artists maintain being burnt out, and on the finish of day you’re nonetheless a human being.”

Within the band’s early days, Hannah would drag herself from present to indicate, forcing herself on stage every evening. Generally she didn’t flip as much as exhibits altogether. “It’s simply unfair on everybody,” she displays right this moment. “It’s not proper for the artist and it’s not proper for the those that have purchased the tickets to see you. We had totally different managers firstly of our profession, who aren’t our managers anymore. And other people say that it’s not in regards to the cash – that they need what’s greatest for you – however it’s simply not true. It’s completely in regards to the cash.”

“Artists maintain being burnt out – you see it occur repeatedly and once more” – Hannah Reid

At first of their careers the band labored with an “iconic supervisor” with an “old-school” mentality, who had supported the band from the very starting. “He was additionally one of many first individuals who stated, ‘You’ve bought an unbelievable voice – we have to do one thing with this’”, Hannah recounts of their relationship. However finally the workload piled on prime of the band meant that they needed to half methods with stated supervisor as they felt overworked and exhausted.

“To say it was nerve-racking doesn’t even start to really sum up how tough it was,” provides Dan of the cut up, which got here between the band’s first two albums. “I simply keep in mind infinite conversations with legal professionals, and simply the issues of it. It was actually, actually nerve-racking.”

The band rallied collectively all through this tough course of, and are actually surrounded by a brand new crew. Hannah, Dan and Dot are actually answerable for signing off on their very own schedules, too, which implies the trio will flip down alternatives in the event that they lead to overwhelming ranges of labor and time away, with a concentrate on holding the band wholesome.

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However at the least the hidden turmoil the band expertise wasn’t all for nothing. “I feel I’m a greater individual due to it,” Hannah displays. “I feel we’ll tour loads much less, however in a means I’m glad, as a result of if I’m then taking a look at a schedule that I do know is manageable, I’ll then be capable to make every a type of gigs so particular. If you find yourself in a spot the place you’re so exhausted or unwell, you’re not giving your followers what they deserve.”

With ‘Californian Soil’, the band have plotted a course that may, hopefully, make sure the album is widely known stay accurately – with the very best present the band may give, and Hannah main the cost, revered because the spectacular frontwoman that she is.

In stepping again, London Grammar have examined the demons of the previous and recognized a clearer path ahead – one which lies in Hannah taking her place because the true chief of London Grammar, giving her the area to push again in opposition to the sexism she’s confronted near-daily in her profession. This shift in dynamic might even see her giving the followers what they deserve, however extra importantly, she’s giving herself what she deserves too.

London Grammar’s ‘Californian Soil’ is out April 9


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